Marwood Mystery part 2

Having already looked briefly at my maternal grandmother’s family in my earlier Marwood Mystery part 1 post, I’m going to now look at the research which the Achievements agency carried out on the Marwood Family and then compare that to other research/theories.

I actually think they might have missed that my great great grandfather may have married 2 Marys, one who died in 1869 and the other who died in 1884, but you’ll have to read the end of this post for this theory.

Anyway, the Achievements research starts with Frederick (Thomas) Marwood the cork manufacturer married to Mary Walker. According to the Prayer Book of my grandmother Mue (Mary Muriel Marwood) Frederick was born on 3rd October 1857 in Blackburn. Lancashire. Her Prayer Book also showed that Frederick’s father was born on thc 31st October 1826 in Manchester, but didn’t mention his father’s name nor that of his mother even though it showed her being born on 18th November 1887.

Achievements started by looking at the census returns of the nineteenth century and started with the 1881 census that was taken prior to his marriage in 1885. They found a Frederick Marwood living and born in Blackburn, who was the son of a cork manufacturer.

1881 Census – Residence: 41 King Street, Blackburn, Lancashire

Edward Marwood, head (of household) (age) 55, (status) married, (occupation) Cork Manufacturer, (born) Manchester Lancashire.

Mary Marwood, wife, 46, married, Bolton Lancashire

Elizabeth Marwood, daughter,  unmarried, 25, Blackburn Lancashire

Frederick T. Marwood, son,  unmarried, 23, bookkeeper, Blackburn Lancashire

Thomas H. Marwood, son,  unmarried, 7, Scholar, Blackburn Lancashire

Annie O’Hare, servant, unmarried, 23, Domestic Servant, Ireland

The King Street location was one that my mother remembers as being a Queen Anne Town House, with the cork business next door. Achievements then looked at the 1871 census return and found the family already living in Blackbum at this time:

1871 Census – Residence: 10 Black Street, Blackburn, Lancashire

Edward Marwood, head (of household) (age) 45, (status) married, (occupation) Cork Manufacturer empl. 10 men & 6 boys, (born) Manchester Lancashire.

Mary Marwood, wife, 36, married, Bolton Lancashire

Mary J Marwood, daughter,  unmarried, 22, Bury Lancashire

Edward Marword, son, unmarried, 18, bookkeeper, Blackburn Lancashire

Frederick T. Marwood, son,  unmarried, 13, Scholar, Blackburn Lancashire

Mary D. Worden?, sister, married, 48, Manchester Lancashire

What’s interesting is that this information differs slightly from that given to my cousin Hamish by Bill McKeich (Paraparaumu, New Zealand), who mentions that the dewelling was shared with William Ward an Innkeeper and his three daughters:

1871 British Census: 46 Back Lane, Blackburn
Mary J Harrison 48 b. Manchester Sister Blackburn
Edward Marwood 45 b. Manchester Head Blackburn
Edward Marwood 18 b. Mannchester Son Blackburn
Frederick T Marwood 13 b. Manchester Son Blackburn
Mary Marwood 36 b. Bolton Wife Blackburn
Mary J Marwood 22 b. Bury Daughter Blackburn

The addresses are slightly different as is the name of the sister. Not sure this hugely significant. Anyway, Achievements then looked at 1861 Census:

1861 Census – Residence: 10 Black Street, Blackburn, Lancashire

Edward Marwood, head (of household) (age) 35, (status) married, (occupation) Cork Maker, (born) Manchester Lancashire.

Mary Marwood, wife, 32, married, Manchester Lancashire

Mary J Marwood, daughter,  unmarried, 12, Bury Lancashire

Elizabeth Marwood, daughter, unmarried, 5, Blackburn Lancashire

Frederick T. Marwood, son,  unmarried, 3, Blackburn Lancashire

Alfred Wm. Marwood, son,  unmarried, 1, Blackburn Lancashire

Age and place of birth of Edward’s wife Mary isn’t consistent with later censuses, probably because if she was 9 years younger than her husband as shown in the later cenuses whe would have been in her early teens when she was marred.  Alfred Wm. Marwood also isn’t mentioned in later ones which suggests he died as an infant. The family also appear in the 1851 Census as follows:

1851 Census – Residence: 80 Darwen Street, Blackburn, Lancashire

Edward Marwood, head (of household) (age) 25, (status) married, (occupation) Cork Cutter, (born) Manchester Lancashire.

Mary E. Marwood, wife, 22, married, Manchester Lancashire

Mary J Marwood, daughter,  unmarried, 2, Bury Lancashire

Susan Marwood, daughter, unmarried, 7 mos , Bury Lancashire

Rossthorne B. Smith, apprentice,  unmarried, 17, Connenly Yorkshire

Achievements also found records for the death of Susan Marwood in 1852. Given the ages of Edward and Mary and their daughter Mary it would seem that they would have married recently. What’s also interesting is to see the progression of Edward Marwood over 20 years from being  Cork Cutter with 2 employees and an apprentice to a cork manufacturer employing 10 men and 6 boys, as well as a domestic servant. This suggests upward mobility rather necessarily a family that has a certain social standing at the onset.

Interesting, as it is believed that both my great grandfather Frederick T. Marwood and his elder brother Edward were educated at the Xaverian Brothers Notre Dame Institution in Bruges … not long after they had opened schools in parishes in Bury and Manchester.

Apparently, someone in the family has an ornate silver medal with the inscription:

Notre Dame
Edouard Marwood

Par sa grandeur
Mgr JJ Faiet
Evêque de Bruge (Bishop)
Le 7 Auot 1866

Frederick is also believed to have gone to University in Cologne, but not sure this inconsistent for the son of what could have been a self-made man.

Anyway, Achievements then went to look for a marriage certificate for Edward and Mary in Manchester, which was interesting given that the daughters Mary J and Susan were born in Bury.

They found 4 matches, but the most compelling was the marriage of was that of Edward Marwood who married Mary McKenna on the 31st May 1848 in the church of St Patrick in Manchester. According to the certificate Edward was a 23 year old bachelor. He worked as a cork cutter and lived at Stanley Street in Bury, which tallies with the daughters Mary J(ane) and Susan being born in Bury. His father was Andrew Edward Marwoood, a weaver. Mary was a spinster aged 20. She lived at Stonehewer Street in Manchester. Her father was an umbrella manufacturer named Patrick McKenna. Edward and Marry married in a Catholic ceremony,  and James Duggan and Catherine Gosson witnessed the wedding.

Achievement then looked at 1841 census seeking reference to Edward living with his father Andrew, but couldn’t find any relevant references. So they looked instead at the parish registers for baptisms in that area, as well as utilising the International Genealogical Index (IGI) and found the following:

Edward bapt. son of Andrew and Elizabeth Marwood 29 Jan 1826. Cathedral Manchester

They couldn’t find any other siblings on the IGI, suggesting that only Edward was  baptised in the parish of Manchester. They did however examine the original registers of Cathedral in Manchester and extracted a copy of the original registerentry for Edward’s baptism. This stated that Andrew workcd as a weaver at this time. They say that this was an interesting digression from the familial occupation of cork cutters that they had discovered being passed down in subsequent generations of the Marwood family. Others think that the leap from Weaver to Cork Manufacturer with a certain social standing is too great within a generation and I’ll come on to this later.

Achievements that found an online source for the search for the marriage of Andrew Marwood to an Elizabeth Thomas 3 Dec 1821 St Johns, Manchester. They then examined original registers of the parish of St Johns Mnachester and obtained a full copy of the marriage cert, which shows a Andrew Marwood (Town Weaver) marrying an Elizabeth Thomas (Spinster). The marriage had taken place after the calling of banns rather than by licence, so they were unable to find more information about the couple from any license documentation.

They did, however, find a suitable baptism in 1785 from the Manchester parish records for an Andrew Marwood:

Andrew bapt son of Andrew and Elizabeth MOREWOOD 14 Jan 1785, St Ann, Manchester

They think Morewood is a highly likely variant of Marwood given literacy at the time, others disagree. They also found an unverified source that had suggested that Andrcw Moorewood married Elizabeth Berry on  1st September 1783. They recommend that any future research should certainly go back to the records of Manchester and examine them. parish by parish n order to establish authenticity of this entry. They also recommend examining the baptismal entry for Andrew Marwood taking plave in 1785  as this may well suggest Andrew senior’s occupation, and give more information about the family.

The children of Edward and Mary Marwood mentioned in the censuses above (Mary Jane, Susan, Edward, Elizabeth , Frederick T., Thomas H.  and Alfred Wm.), seem consistent with those that cousin Hamish has listed on his site:

  1. Frederick Thomas Marwood b: 3 OCT 1857 in Blackburn
  2. Edward Marwood b: 11 APR 1853 in Blackburn
  3. Lily Marwood b: 3 AUG 1855
  4. Mary Jane Marwood b: 11 MAR 1849 in Stanley Street, Bury, Lancashire, England. or 18 Mar 1851
  5. Elizabeth Marwood b: ABT 1856
  6. Thomas H Marwood b: ABT 1873
  7. Alfred Wm Marwood b: ABT 1860
  8. Susan Marwood b: ABT 1851

However, Hamish also has a Lily Marwood born around 3 Aug 1855 who does not appear on the census. My mother thinks that she married a Bussey, or maybe didn’t but possibly had a son called Simon (Francis Rose) Bussy/Bussey who was a famous scientist. Ancestry has one match for a Lily and John Bussey from the 1900 United States Federal Census.

Maybe Lily was a half sister as my mother has explained that her great grandfather Edward did marry again, but she doesn’t know her name. She also says he at least one child, Tom(?), my grandfather’s half-brother, who she knew quite well. Apparently, he married a Mabel Clarke of Princes Risborough. They lived in a house called Widworthy in Hoghton and had no children. He was a director of the Blackpool Tower Company.

She thinks that Louisa Marwood married someone called  Mr. Lewis and they lived in London. Her sisters Mary and Iris knew them, and Hamish has a nun called Mary Agatha (Lewis?) as her daughter.

My mother hasn’t heard of the Charles and Stanley Marwood that cousin Hamish has listed along with Leo (and Thomas and Louisa above) as being the half brothers and sisters of grandfather Frederick. Her mother (Mue) did have a brother called Leo who died as a baby and may have been called after an uncle called Leo. She also says that Mue had cousins in Berkeley, California but she doesn’t know if they were Marwoods or Walkers, or what their names were.  They sent her family food parcels during the war and the first colour photograph she ever saw in about 1943.

She also says that it was definitely her  grandfather Fred who married a Walker of Avenham, Preston. Not her great grandfather Edward. What’s interesting though is that Edward is still living with Mary according to the 1881 census, despite Hamish showing that at least Louisa and Thomas  were born by then. There’s also no mention of the half brothers and sisters in any of the research that was carried out by achievements. I wonder if they appear in any census records.

What’s interesting is that cousin Hamish has two possible dates for the death of Edward’s wife Mary (McKenna). According to his site she died on 18 NOV 1869 in Blackburn, Aged 41 or perhaps on Jul 25 1884 aged 49yrs. The other possibility is that Edward married two Marys. In the 1851 census he’s married to a Mary aged 22 (3 years younger than him) who is born in Manchester. This would mean that she was born about 1829, which would make her about 40/41 in 1869. In the 1871 census Edward’s married to a Mary Marwood aged 36 (9 years younger than  him) born in Bolton. This would means she would have been born in 1835, which would make her 49 in 1884. This is consistent with the Will I’ve seen mentioned on my cousin Hamish’s site from 1884:

Mary Marwood of 41 King Street, Blackburn, dd 1884 Jul 25 [49yrs], £877 2s 11d, proved by Edward Marwood (cork merchant) of 30 Kremlin Drive, Stoneycroft, Liverpool, and Frederick Thomas Marwood.

Perhaps a death certificate of the Mary who possibly died in 1869 could be found. It would be consistent with my mother thinking that Tom was the only half brother she was certain about if he was born in 1873. It also suggests that the Thomas Marwood , of Widworthy in Hoghton (b: 27 NOV 1873) that cousin Hamish has listed is the same person he has listed as Thomas H Marwood (b: ABT 1873).

If Edward did marry two Marys and one died in 1869 and the other in 1884, then it’s more likely that Louisa Marwood was the daughter of the earlier Mary (McKenna) given she’s listed as being born on 27 MAY 1862. Interesting she and Lily don’t appear on any census returns though.

Anyway, it’s getting late so will need to write another posts soon with some of the counter theories.


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