Closest Kirby Family Relatives – Ernest Seymour Kirby?

My brother and I have been trying to find our closest Kirby relatives. My father was an only child and his father’s two siblings died childless in the war. His grandfather George Henry Kirby had a brother and sister who died without offspring, and a sister called Dorothy Gian who married Capt. John Charles Francis Lister, but no one has any idea what ever became of them.

George Henry’s father Alfred Octavius Kirby was one of 11 or 12 children of George Goldsmith Kirby, but we don’t know if George Goldsmith had any siblings.

Here’s what we know and don’t about George Goldsmith Kirby’s children, and their offspring:

Harriet Sarah was born about 1831 in London, but we don’t know when she died, or if she married and/or had children

Emma Augusta was born about 1832 in London, but we don’t know when she died, or if she married and/or had children

George Frederick was born in London about 1833, and there’s an Obituary for a George-Frederick, ‘eldest son of George Goldsmith Kirby, esq. of Kensingnton-park-gardens East’ for June 1853 in The Gentleman’s Magazine (p.674). There’s no mention of any wife or Children.

William Henry was born about 1834 in London and died 19 Feb 1859

Edward Goldsmith was Born about 1836 in London and died 24 Aug 1860. He was a Lieutenant in the Royal Navy.

Montaque Alexander was born about 1837 in London, and I’ve found a Lieutenant ‘Montagu’ Alexander Kirby who died of wounds in the Indian Mutiny on 25th September 1857 here.

Arthur Raymond was born about 1842 in London and Married Gertrude Fleming. His children Claude Arthur (Born abt 1882) and Elsie Harriet (Born abt 1883) never, and his son Alister Graham (born abt 1886) was Killed In Action on 29 Mar 1917. Alistair also one a Gold medal at Alister Graham Kirby in the 1912 Stockholm Olympics for Men’s eights.

Alfred Octavius was born about 1843 in London, married Alice Baxendale. Alfred (mentioned above) is my great great great grandfather, and his surviving descendants include my father, myself, my two brothers and sisters, and 11 great great great great grandchildren … so far.

Henry Dillon was born about 1845in London, and died 6 April 1860, Age 15.

Augustus George was Born 22 Jun 1847in London and married Edith Smith Dorrien. They had 8 children and I’ll look at them below.

Katherine was born about 1849 in London, but we don’t know when she died, or if she married and/or had children. There’s a Miss Katherine Kirby mentioned in The London Gazette, 28th May 1920 (5993). It mentions she died on 31st July, 1919. I’m presuming it’s the same Katherine as the article mentions that the executor was Major Horace Augustus Kirby, of the Vicarage South Weald. Katherine’s brother Augustus George was the vicar at South Weald and Horace Augustus was his son, i.e. Katherine’s nephew.

There also a mystery child called Laura Elizabeth, who does not appear in any Census, but her death was announced in The Times on Thursday, May 26, 1853:

On the 23d inst., at Strand-on-the-Green, Laura Elizabeth, eldest surviving daughter and dear child of George Goldsmith Kirby, Esq., of 3. Kensington-park-gardens East.

There may, however, be some living descendants of our great great great uncle Augustus George mentioned above. Here’s what we know about his offspring:

Horace Augustus was born abt 1880 in Newnham, Hampshire. Can’t find any mention of him having married but The London Gazette 3rd June 1918 (6505) mentions a Major Horace Augustus Kirby was awarded the Distinguished Service Medal. The London Gazette 3rd July 1916 (6541) mentions that a Captain Horace Augustus Kirby, Royal Artillery (26th Jacob’s Mountain Battery) was awarded the Military Cross:

On 25th April, 1915, during operations in the neighbourhood of Gaba Tepe, for exceptional gallantry in continuing to conduct the withdrawal of his battery from a forward position, although wounded in the head by a shrapnel shot. This he continued to do until he fainted from loss of blood. He voluntarily returned to duty the next day.

Robert Dorrien was born 2 May 1882 in Pebmarsh, Essex. I can’t find any mention of any marriage, but The Blain Biographical Directory of Anglican Clergy in the South Pacific 2008 edition shows that he was a curate in England until adjudged bankrupt in June 1911 (The Times) . It also says he spent time in Christchurch New Zealand. The Roll of the sons and daughters of the Anglican Church clergy throughout the world and of the naval and military chaplains of the same who gave their lives in the Great War, 1914-1918 by Richard Ussher, mentions that the Rev. Robert Dorrien, son of Rev. Augustus George Kirby, Vicar of South Weald, died in Yule, Illama, New Guinea on Apr. 29 1916.

Alma Edith born abt 1883 in Pebmarsh, Essex. She married Bryan William Grace Oates, who is bother or cousin of Captain Oates from Captain Scott’s Antarctic expedition. But no one has any idea what ever became of them.

Ernest Seymour was born abt 1884 in Pebmarsh, Essex. The Australian Imperial Force project database mentions that he was single when he ‘died of disease’ on 2 February 1918 (see below). The Roll of the sons and daughters of the Anglican Church clergy throughout the world and of the naval and military chaplains of the same who gave their lives in the Great War, 1914-1918 by Richard Ussher, suggests he died on February 21st 1918.

Mary Evelyn born abt 1885 in Pebmarsh, Essex, but we don’t know when she died, or if she married and/or had children.

Eric Dorrien born abt 1889 in Pebmarsh, Essex. According to London Gazette 5 March 1915. Eric Dorrien Kirby to be Second Lieutenant on 23rd February in the 16th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Queen’s Westminster Rifles).

Beatrice Gwendoline Born abt 1892. Pebmarsh, Essex. She Married Capt. William Joshua Rowley and the children of their son Sir Charles Robert Rowley, 7th and 8th Bt. are the only living descendants of George Goldsmith Kirby we actually know.

Frances Geraldine was born abt 1896 in Pebmarsh, Essex, but we don’t know when she died, or if she married and/or had children

Australian Imperial Force project database
Ernest Seymour KIRBY
Regimental number: 9932
Religion: Church of England
Occupation: Station manager
Address: Gundaline, Hay, New South Wales
Marital status: Single
Age at embarkation: 30
Next of kin: Father, A G Kirby, South Weald, Brentwood, Essex, England
Enlistment date: 1 November 1915
Rank on enlistment: Gunner
Unit name: Field Artillery Brigade 1, Reinforcement 13
AWM Embarkation Roll number: 13/29/3
Embarkation details: Unit embarked from Sydney, New South Wales, on board HMAT A35 Berrima on 17 December: 1915
Rank from Nominal Roll: Sergeant
Unit from Nominal Roll: 14th Field Artillery Brigade
Fate: Died of disease 2 February 1918
Place of burial: Edinburgh (Seafield) Cemetery (Row B, Grave No. 626), Scotland
Panel number, Roll of Honour,
Australian War Memorial: 18

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  1. Dorothy Gian (called “Gian”) Kirby married (Capt) John Charles Francis (called “Jack”) Lister. Capt. Lister was born Nov 15, 1894. He was in 3rd Battn King’s Shropshire Light Infantry. They married hastily before he went to War. I can shed more light on this family for you. Perhaps via email.

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