My Cousin Hamish

My cousin Hamish Maclaren has been tracing his ancestry for something like a decade now, which goes back to the Primeval Slime. He’s now also added a lot of the family tree lines I have on this site and you can start at my great great grandfather Alfred Octavius Kirby here.

He also seems to think we are doomed in terms of the Genghis Khan connection. He suggests there are probably several connections, but I added two he noticed below. He explains that this is just only on the “legitimate” side. Since he, and his known children, were rather renowned for their ‘exploits’, who knows what other possibilities there are. DNA seems to be the only way to sort it out, but may of course ruffle some feathers, by the potential to reveal more ‘exploits’, over many centuries, than some would like to know about.

One line is through Anne (of Udston) Hamilton, wife of William Hamilton, 3rd of Wishaw d: 1724 m: 1660. Her lines goes back to Marie of Gueldern, wife of James II King of Scotland. This leads to the Jean Hamilton, wife of George (of Barnton) Ramsay, connection.

Another is through Jean Fleming, wife of John (Lord Thirlestane) 1st Lord Maitland. Her lines goes back to Margaret Oldenburg of Denmark wife of James III Steward King of Scotland.

So Hamish points out that it seems that foul rumors of our descent from the dreaded Elisabeth Bassaraba Princess of Valachia may actually be correct. She is number 8 in this line. he got this, at least in part, from a Family Tree (Newell, Stanley, Dryak, Guyon, Rogers, Ely, Lewis) here.

Also Dracula does seem to be some sort of uncle/cousin. Also descended from Genghis Khan, allegedly.

He’s no idea if any of this is true, of course. But under many of the individuals in the file, he has shown the sources where the different bits come from.

Genghis Temujin (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

2 Jöchi (Juchi/Djouchi) (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

3 Tutukan (Toqoqan) (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

4 Mongke (Monke) Temur (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

5 Toktemir (Toq-Temur) (of the Blue Horde) Khan b: Abt. 1250 d: 131 , father of

6 Ioana Basarab “The Great” Voivode of Valachia b: Abt. 1272 in Valachia (Wallachia), Romania d: 1352, father of

7 [169] Nicholas II Basarab Voivode of Valachia b: Abt. 1307 in Valachia (Wallachia), Romania d: 1364, father of

8 Elisabeth Bassaraba Princess of Valachia b: Abt. 1335 d: Bet. 1367 – 1369, wife of Wladislaw III Duke of Oppeln d: 1401 m: Abt. 1340 , mother of

9 Katarzyna of Oppeln d: 06 Jun 1420, wife of Henryk VI “Wrobel” of Glogau & Sagan b: 1360 d: 14 Mar 1396/97 , mother of

10 Agnes of Glogau and Sagan d: 07 Jul 1362, mother of

11 Margaret of Brieg, mother of

12 Marqurite of Holland Zetland & Hainault b: 1363 d: 23 Jan 1422/23. wife of John ‘Intrepidus’ Duke of Burgundy b: 28 May 1371 d: 09 Oct 1419 , father of

13. Marie of Burgundy, wife of Adolf I (von Leve) Duke of Cleves b: 1373 d: 1448, mother of

14. Catherine of Cleves b: 25 May 1417 in Kleve d: 10 Feb 1478, mother of

15 Marie of Gueldern b: 1432 in Grave d: 01 Dec 1463 wife of James II (the Fiery Face) King of Scotland, mother of

16. Mary Princess of Scotland Stewart, married James (6th of Cadzow) 1st Lord Hamilton, mother of

17. James (1st Earl of Arran) Hamilton, father of

18. James (Sir) (of Finnart) Hamilton, father of

19. Agnes (of Finnart) Hamilton, father of

20. Hugh 6th Lord Somerville, father of

21. Mary Somerville, mother of

22. Helen Whiteford, of Milton, mother of

23. John (7th of Udston) Hamilton, father of

24. Anne (of Udston) Hamilton, wife of William Hamilton, 3rd of Wishaw d: 1724 m: 1660

[The dates of Katarzyna of Oppeln (number 9) who died 06 Jun 1420 and her alleged daughter Agnes of Glogau and Sagan (number 10) who died 07 Jul 1362 make this unlikely … phew]

… but there is also a connection through John (Lord Thirlestane) 1st Lord Maitland and the wife of James the 3rd, 14. Margaret Oldenburg of Denmark

Genghis Temujin (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

2 Jöchi (Juchi/Djouchi) (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

3 Tutukan (Toqoqan) (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

4 Mongke (Monke) Temur (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

5 Toktemir (Toq-Temur) (of the Blue Horde) Khan b: Abt. 1250 d: 1312

6 Ioana Basarab “The Great” Voivode of Valachia b: Abt. 1272 in Valachia (Wallachia), Romania d: 1352

7 [169] Nicholas II Basarab Voivode of Valachia b: Abt. 1307 in Valachia (Wallachia), Romania d: 1364

8 Elisabeth Bassaraba Princess of Valachia b: Abt. 1335 d: Bet. 1367 – 1369 . Wife of Wladislaw III Duke of Oppeln

9 Katarzyna of Oppeln

10 Jadwiga of Glogau and Sagan mother of

11 Barbara of Liegnitz b: Bet. 1372 – 1384 d: 09 May, wife of Rudolf III Duke of Saxe-Wittenberg d: 09 Jun 1419 m: 06 Mar 1395/96 , mother of

12. Barbara of Saxe-Wittenberg, wife of John III (MargraveofBrandenburg) von Hohenzollen b: 1406 d: 16 Nov , mother of

13. Dorothea (von Brandenburg) von Hohenzollern wife of Christian I King of Denmark, mother of

14. Margaret Oldenburg of Denmark wife of James III Steward King of Scotland, mother of

15. James IV Stewart King of Scotland, father of

16. Catherine (Princess) Stewart, 2ife of James (3rd Earl of Morton) Douglas, mother of

17. Margaret (of Morton) Douglas, wife of James (2rd Earl of Arran) Hamilton, mother of

18. Barbara (of Arran) Hamilton, wife of James 4th Lord Fleming, mother of

19. Jean Fleming, wife of John (Lord Thirlestane) 1st Lord Maitland

At 7 the line splits off to include Dracula, aka Vlad the Impaler.

Genghis Temujin (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

2 Jöchi (Juchi/Djouchi) (of the Golden Horde) Khan, father of

3 Tutukan (Toqoqan) (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

4 Mongke (Monke) Temur (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

5 Toktemir (Toq-Temur) (of the Blue Horde) Khan, father of

6. Ioana Basarab “The Great” Voivode of Valachia, mother of

7. Nicholas II Basarab Voivode of Valachia children

8. Radu I “The Black” Basarab Voivode of Valachia great grand father of

11. Vlad III Tepes”the Impaler” Voivode of Wallachia. AKA Dracula

The royal family has several connections through their German ancestors. They branch off with a different child of “6. Ioana Basarab “The Great” Voivode of Valachia”

One being from Sophia Dorothia of Brunswick 1666, wife of George

….. 18 Magdalene of Brandenburg 1582 – 1616

……….. +Ludwig V of Hesse-Darmstadt 1577 – 1626

……. 19 Anna Eleonore of Hesse-Darmstadt 1601 –

…………. +Georg Duke of Braunschweig-Lüneburg 1581/82 – 1641

……… 20 George William Duke of Brunswick 1624 – 1705

…………… +Eléonore Desmier d’Olbreuse

……….. 21 Sophia Dorothia of Brunswick 1666 – 1726

…………….. + George I of Hanover King of Britain 1660 – 1727

Descendants of Anne (of Udston) Hamilton to Kirby

1 Anne (of Udston) Hamilton
…. +William Hamilton, 3rd of Wishaw d: 1724 m: 1660 Father: William Hamilton, 1st of Wishaw Mother: Beatrix Douglas

2 Robert Hamilton, younger of Wishaw b: 06 Jul 1664 d: Bef. 21 Dec 1726
…… +Jean Hamilton m: 1686 Father: Robert Hamilton, of Brownmuir

.. 3 William Hamilton, 4th of Wishaw b: 02 Feb 1689/90 d: 1756
…….. +Bethia Hamilton b: 31 Jan 1701/02 d: 02 Oct 1785 in age 83 m: 16 Dec 1726 Father: Charles Hamilton Mother: Euphemia Hamilton

…. 4 Robert Hamilton, 6th of Wishaw b: 03 May 1731 in Wishaw, Scotland.2 d: 27 Mar 1784
………. +Susan Balfour d: 09 Jan 1789 m: 11 Feb 1764 New Kirk, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Michael (Sir) (6th Bt) Balfour Mother: Jane Ross

…… 5 Jean Hamilton
………… +George (of Barnton) Ramsay d: Feb 1810 m: 24 Feb 1791 Info 6: See here Father: William Ramsay, of Barnton Mother: Janet Mansfield

…….. 6 Susan (of Barnton) Ramsay d: Sep 1831
………….. +Alexander Maitland b: 14 Sep 1787 d: Sep 1828 m: 25 Mar 1819 Info 6: See Stirnet Genealogy here; Burke’s Peerage under “Maitland”. Father: Alexander Charles (2nd Bt) Maitland Mother: Helen Gibson-Wright

………. 7 George Ramsay Maitland b: 19 Jan 1821 d: 24 Jun 1866 in Largs, Ayrshire
……………. +Alice Anne Nisbet b: Abt. 1825 in INDIA d: 27 Oct 1869 in Largs, Ayrshire m: 19 Sep 1848 Father: Josiah Nisbet Mother: Rachel Marjoribanks

………… 8 George Keith Maitland b: 11 Jan 1854 in Edinburgh d: 17 Mar 1896 Info 6: See Burke’s Peerage under “Maitland”.
……………… +Christine Mary Theresa (of Keppoch) Macdonell b: 14 May 1845 in Invernessshire, Scotland d: 29 Dec 1932 m: 1877 Info 1: 18 May 1845, Kilmonivaig, Inverness, Scotland Info 5: See Notes. Info 6: See Debrett’s Peerage and Baronetage (1968). Father: Angus (20th of Keppoch) MacDonell Mother: Christina (of Shenaghairt) McNab

………….. 9 Alice Marie (Elsie) Maitland b: Abt. 1880
……………….. +George Henry Kirby b: Abt. 1876 in London m: 1900 Father: Alfred Octavius Kirby Mother: Alice Baxendale

……………. 10 Alfred Reginald Claude Kirby b: Abt. 1901 in UK d: 21 Jun 1963 in Brompton Hospital
…………………. +Rosemary Louise Fitzherbert Wright b: 02 Jun 1905 m: 19 Apr 1925 Roman Catholic Church, Fordingbridge, Father: Ernest FitzHerbert Wright Mother: Lucy Fox

………………. 11 Giles Simon Kirby b: 21 Oct 1930 in Gipping, Stowmarket, Suffolk Regiment/Rank: Royal Navy
……………………. +Angela Mary Julie Birtwistle b: 04 Jul 1932 in Hoghton House, Houghton, Nr. Preston, Lancashire, UK m: 29 Jul 1952 London, England Father: James Astley Birtwistle Mother: Mary Muriel Marwood

………………… 12 MOI

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