The Marjoribanks Connection via the Ramsays and Maitlands, and on to Castle Gogar

I’ve been trying to work out how I’m connected to the Marjoribanks family and realised that George Ramsay Maitland married Alice Anne Nisbet in September 1848. She was born around 1825 in INDIA, and was the daughter of Josiah Nisbet, of the Honourable East India Company’s Civil Service (HEICCS), and Rachael Marjoribanks.

Rachel was the daughter of Sir John Marjoribanks (1st Bart of Lees, Lord Provost of Edinburgh) and Alison Ramsay (daughter of William Ramsay of Barnton). This means that William Ramsay of Barnton was the great grandfather of both Alice Anne Nisbet and her husband George Ramsay Maitland (see table below).

I found a caricature of my ancestor Sir John Marjoribanks from John Kay’s A Series of Original Portraits and Caricature Etchings (1838), which gives him a better write up than the one he gets on the Marjoribanks family site here.

Sir John Marjoribanks
Sir John Marjoribanks

I’ll have to look into the rest of my Marjoribanks ancestry at another time, as I’ve been trying to figure out how to do tables on this blog. So I’ve attempted below to use a table to show how the descendants of William Ramsay of Barnton end up marrying via his Children George and Alison Ramsay.

I’ve also found a portrait of Alison Ramsay by Mrs James Robertson from a The portrait gallery of distinguished females by John Burke (see here)

Alison Ramsay
Alison Ramsay
William Ramsay of Barnton William Ramsay of Barnton
|
George Ramsay of Barnton
and Jean Hamilton
|
Alison Ramsay and
Sir John Marjoribanks
|
Susan Ramsay and
Alexander Gibson-Maitland
|
Rachel Marjoribanks and
Josiah Nesbit
|
George Ramsay Maitland
and Anne Nisbet
|
Anne Nisbet and
George Ramsay Maitland

The connection with Castle Gogar is that my ancestor William Ramsay of Barnton bought Gogar House in 1789 for £37000. It later becomes known as Castle Gogar (see more here). Lady (Brenda) Steel-Maitland was still living in the castle until 2003. She was the second wife of Sir (Arthur) James Drummond Ramsay-Steel-Maitland, a descendant of William Ramsay (see below). According to the National Archive site, Sir (Arthur) James’ divorce from his first wife (Elizabeth Stella Ramsay Steel Maitland) was based on her “petition for restitution of conjugal rights” (see here).

William Ramsay of Barnton
|
George Ramsay of Barnton
and Jean Hamilton
|
Susan Ramsay* and
Alexander Gibson-Maitland
|
Sir Alexander Charles Maitland**
(later Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland, 3rd Bt.)
and Thomasina Agnes Hunt
|
Sir James Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland, 4th Bt***
and Fanny Lucy Fowke White
|
Mary Ramsay-Gibson Maitland
and Arthur Herbert Drummond Steel
(later Sir Arthur Herbert Drummond Ramsay Steel-Maitland, 1st Bt
|
Sir (Arthur) James Drummond Ramsay-Steel-Maitland, 2nd Bt.
and Matilda Brenda Doughty

* According to Ratho Local History site my ancestor Susan (Ramsay) had a child at Castle Gogar and Peter Ramsay the Inn Keeper is buried there (see more here).

** Sir Alexander Charles Maitland assumed the Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland when he inherited his grandfather’s estates which I’m guessing would have included Castle Gogar. I’m descended from his brother.

*** Arthur Herbert Drummond Steel was a Tory MP originally. He assumed the name Ramsay-Steel-Maitland hen he was made a baronet in 1901, having married Mary, daughter of Sir James Ramsay-Gibson Maitland, 4th Baronet, of Barnton and Sauchie (see Wiki entry here).

William Ramsay of Barnton Peter Ramsay (Inn Keeper)
|
George Ramsay of Barnton
and (Hon.) Jean Hamilton
|
William Ramsay of Gogar (?)
and (Hon.) Betty Hamilton
|
Susan Ramsay and
Alexander Gibson-Maitland
|
Mary Euphemia Ramsay and
Sir Thomas Wollaston White
|
Sir Alexander Charles Maitland
and Thomasina Agnes Hunt
|
Fanny Lucy Fowke White and
Sir James Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland
|
Sir James Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland
and Fanny Lucy Fowke White

Sir James Ramsay-Gibson-Maitland and Fanny Lucy Fowke White would have, therefore, shared at least two sets of recent ancestors. Firstly, they would have both been descendants of the parents of William (senior) and Peter Ramsay above, although I haven’t found out the names of the parents yet. They would also be descendants of Robert Hamilton (6th of Wishaw, de jure 6th Lord Belhaven) and Susan Balfour, who were the parents of Jean and Betty Hamilton above.

Sir Thomas Wollaston White had also previously married Georgina Ramsay, the daughter of George Ramsay of Barnton and (Hon.) Jean Hamilton above.

Apart from the definite masonic connections between at least the Marjoribanks, Ramsays and Maitlands families, there must have been a lot of consolidation of land and wealth by the intermarrying between families. For example, William Ramsay Ramsay (not mentioned above), was the only son and heir of George Ramsay and (Hon.) Jean Hamilton above. He inherited estates in Midlothian and Stirlingshire to earning him the distinction of being the “richest commoner in Scotland” (see more here). Anyway, I’m beginning to fit the jigsaw pieces together and now have both the Marjoribanks and Hamilton families to look into, although am still interested to find out about earlier generations of the Ramsay family.

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3 thoughts on “The Marjoribanks Connection via the Ramsays and Maitlands, and on to Castle Gogar

  1. My mother (maiden name Doughty) is the great niece of Matilda Brenda Doughty. We knew her as Great Aunt Brenda and I have memories as a child of visiting Castle Gogar. Great aunt Brenda’s sister called Dorothy also lived with her in later life.

    I have some photographs somewhere of our visits.

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